2018-10-08

TCEC CUP running. Leela in danger of elimination from the 1st round against Laser! UPDATE: Leela won!



TCEC Cup continues and we already know 6 engines that have promoted to next round.
Leela right now has a big fight with Laser and after 4 games it is on 2-2 with 4 draws.

It would be a big surprise if Leela will not manage to promote but with just 8 games everything can happen. The peculiar strength adaption to the opponent of Leela is well known anyway, this means it can hold Stockfish to very close result but playing against much weaker engines she doesn't perform accordingly.



UPDATE:     After 6 draws in the first 6 games, Leela won the last 2 games to promote in the next round. In the game with black pieces she slowly outplayed Laser obtaining eventually a won position, while with white pieces, in a reversed opening from previous game, she managed to easily win heavily outplaying Laser in a French defense where Leela knew even sooner than Cfish(a clone of Stockfish that can run with 7 piece tablebases somewhat better than Stockfish) running on 88 cores, what is going on in the position!
Some analysis of the games will follow.....












Stay tuned more results and analysis will follow........

2 comments:

  1. "a French defense where Leela knew even sooner than Cfish(a clone of Stockfish that can run with 7 piece tablebases somewhat better than Stockfish) running on 88 cores, what is going on in the position!"

    Unless you've run independent tests on equivalent hardware—and you haven't—this claim is neither logically defensible nor supported by any evidence. CFish was merely kibitzing, not defending the position, and Laser largely didn't make CFish's preferred moves. CFish's more measured evaluation may well have been accurate. (And it may not have been. We just don't know. But we do know that Stockfish and its ports/clones still have more accurate evaluation than Leela in most instances.)

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    1. For a computer: kibitzing <=> playing the position. It doesn't matter for it. It just analyzes with the same way, exactly in the same way a position. So what you say does not make any sense and it sounds like an illogical excuse for CFish.
      About the different moves you have a point, yet the point i'm making still exists since evaluation of CFish was LIVE and it the following incident happened at least 4 times that when white(Leela) was on a move and suggesting a certain move was with let's say a 0.00 eval, then after Leela played a different move than CFish's suggestion, then CFish evaluated as +0.28(this is a specific example i remember) so it realized the LEela's move was better.

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